>> glenn: i failed to mention that jacob was trying to disprove the big bang they'rery and you have two alternative theories? >> yes, that is true. >> bret: at least two. >> glenn: watch him. welcome to "red eye." don't open the vintage cabernet. let's go to andy levy for a pre game report. what's coming up on the top show? >> it is the new front line in the war on people being perpetrated by our government. and should people be cleaning the subway or is this the likes of what we have not seen since they ran over the constitution? and finally, why is the white house using wooden eggs for this year's easter egg roll? greg? >> thank you, andy.

>> happy national hot dog day, greg. >> i had a frank myself right before the show. >> frankly, my dear, i don't give a damn. >> if you want to read more about hot dogs, i will send you a link. >> i apologize for nothing. >> your face stinks of death. let's welcome our guest. she is a pistol whose name is crystal. it is a first time guest. and she is a democratic strategist and an all-around great person. and she is so hot that arsonists take credit for starting her. and the centers for disease control list him as a symptom. my repulsive sidekick, bill shultz. and he is funnier than a bucket of clown feet. sitting next to me, the great jim norton. his comedy cd is called despicable. if you don't own it, are you a filthy loser. and he is a low life fink and good to see you, pinch. >> today's columnist talks about why he is joining the hunger strike with

congressional budget cuts for the poor and hungry. to repeat, my weight loss is directly related to this movement and has nothing to do with a drop in advertising and/or circulation. >> i thought it was a medication. >> we are not paying you to think, are we? >> no. >> that's my job. ♪ all the news that's fit to print ♪ >> too bad they didn't catch that. >> they blew a gasket over their stolen basket. they have become international heroes after a video shows the delaware department of transportation taking away their basketball hoop. the hoop was at the end of a cul-de-sac and violated delaware's free zone law because it was too close to the street. they received a leter and were working with their state rep to fix the matter. and then they saw tow trucks taking down other hoops and knew what she had to do, climb up the poll.

will there she s. >> is that a hood? >> the truck left and hours later they returned along with state police lieutenant who had an odd conversation with the man. >> aim still going to be allowed to keep my pulse? >> i am not taking your pulse. >> i would like my pole. >> that's not what i saw. my neighbors didn't tell me that. >> the law is you are supposed to take it, but they offered you the courtesey of keeping it. >> you may stand here. >> i'm sure you will. march madness.

>> those are great neighbors. the police say they are conducting an internal investigation into this mess which i assume includes why the officer lied about telling him he could keep his hoop. for more on this we go to my great uncle lars who is rocking out to lead zep. -- lead zep.

>> when i mean great uncle i don't mean great. he is my grandfather's brother. this story touched a nerve in america. it has turned the world upside down. >> it really has. i haven't been able to sleep for a week. it is obviously irritating. you don't have to burn yourself alive. >> to me it reminded me of the protestor with the daisy going up to the -- >> it is terrible. it was kent state all over again. >> crystal, what did you make of it? was it an outrageous outrage that made you outraged? >> i am continually outraged by this absolute abuse of government of power. and this is exactly the reason why i want the federal government to do everything. keep the local government off

my street on my yard et cetera. the federal government should regulate everything. 245* would take care of the problem. >> that's an interest interesting point of view. >> i think the founding fathers when they were establishing everything, they said, this is what we want the local governments to do, to rip up basketball poles. >> it is in the constitution, right? >> i don't think it is until the turn of the 19th century. >> it was invented by benjamin franklin. >> he was out there trying to find electricity and he was shooting some hoops waiting for the lightning. >> why is he on point and you are not? >> they used the head of benedict arnold. >> a lot of people don't know that. >> what they say is if you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen. first there is a basketball court and then what? bad mitt ton? >> volleyball? >> people were menaces. >> you were often removed by

government workers. you can sympathize with the hoop. >> i never know what i am. i am asleep when they do it. i like how the wife and the girl organizing it, they had a lot they disagreed with, but they could agree on over sized gray sweatshirt. just really big, something you can curl up on the couch with, but also fight the local government with. >> that's something that can bring people together on both sides of the aisle. >> yes. comfortable, casual gray sweatshirt. >> here are two real truths here. people complained about the noise. isn't that what it is really about? and this is not about the government, but about lawyers. let's say if somebody did hit the basketball thing, whatever, the pole and somebody got hurt, the city would be sued. that's why they have to do it, right? >> watching the whole thing, the real issue is i was caught between hating this female detective and really wanted to sleep with her. it was an odd -- that's like every argument i had with a woman.

they said one thing and then they said, didn't say that. >> that's the injustice. they told them they could keep it and then took it away. >> it is about the noise. everybody loves kids, but nobody wants a pack of them playing outside, loud, bouncing a ball. they don't go for it. >> and kids are a danger. >> anything to get them back to playing video games. i don't want them outside sweating off calories. it keeps them fat and immobile and away from me. >> isn't basketball by your house taunting those who are vertically challenges like myself. >> the beauty of a basketball hoop is one you can dunk. you can lower it and move it up. you can make the hoop make you feel like you are 6 foot 8 if you want to. >> and instill confidence. maybe that was the issue. they said it was there for 60 years. maybe they needed to put in a model that wouldn't

disadvantage. >> they have portable ones. >> a new invention, politically correct basketball hoop and it can accommodate everybody's needs. >> nobody can miss. you have to hate the father too. how many cliches can you say? give me liberty or give me death. >> this is america. >> i do love it when he said you hate kids. i am for them. i am for them. they should keep that, and it is crazy, but i also realize if something happens the city will get sued. it is the lawyers at fault. >> let's blame them. from free throws to free work. should they work underground until a job is found? i speak of unemployed new yorkers who could be scrubing and cleaning subways if the metropolitan authority has its way. the cash-strapped agency wants to revive its participation in the city's work experience program which makes the job list toil for their checks.

said the spokesman, quote, this is a program that has a proven track record of providing low cost cleaning help to the subway, providing job training to those who need it and leading directly to full time employment. so to keep their benefits, the jobless must spend three days a week working and two days searching for jobs. the program has been around for nine years and was slashed when bureocrats claim it was cheaper. they nexted the free work because it was too costly. citizens, this is government at its most awesome. >> today i will show you one of the craziest sling shots i have ever made. the idea was to take this machete. you can see it carved into the notch with the tip. >> this time you won't see me shooting in a t-shirt. >> he is a very scary man.

i don't want him working in the subway i. >> i would not take away his basketball hoop. >> no, i wouldn't either. should they be looking for jobs five days a week? >> i don't think it is a bad idea. they are all looking for jobs part of the time. it allows them to have something resume worthy. if they have been out of work it keeps them in a probing -- a productivity mind set. they call it simulated work which is weird. >> i like the idea of skills though. here i am. >> you did it for nine years too. >> it is a great way to end welfare. >> crystal. should benefits be tied to work? >> absolutely. i don't see any problem with this. it makes sense.

keep them in the habit of going to work every day and still requiring team -- time spent looking for a job. there is something for everyone and it is great. >> they don't have to enjoy it. as i often say, it is called employment and not enjoyment. >> you do say that. >> if you were jobless and this was to maintain your benefits, would you do it? would you be inclined to look for a job? it is a way to look out the door. >> i would probably try to find a way to prostitute myself or sell nude photos on craigslist. >> bill, only the government could make free work more expensive than pay. did you understand that? >> i didn't get any of it, but i president do like the idea of working to get your unemployment check. i remember in america where you would just kind of claim you slept walked through a couple of job interviews and stay in line, usually half

stoned, and get your stupid check. now they are making you work for it? i didn't sign up for this america. i am going to narnia. this is not the america i know. >> we need to take our country back. >> you obviously hate children. >> i absolutely do. >> do you think they should do this all across america? >> i think it is not a bad idea. you have to instill the mind set that if you want -- you need to be productive and if you want output you need input. i don't have a problem with this. >> jim says it on dates. >> what? >> if you want output you need input. >> she knows i am kidding. to the greg-alogue, it is a scallion of sense in a salad of stupidity. last saturday earth hour took place. it is the event where cities around the world pledge to turn off the power and go dark for an hour. it began in australia in 2007 and has since spread like a

pimply rash to more than 130 countries. if you missed it, it is not your fault. i totally drank my way through it, and the only thing i had off are my pants. and now after five years, some commentators are pronouncing that they were all uncaring jerks. that's where i am going with this. if you took a bunch of caring people and a bunch of people like me and compared our environmental behaviors, would you really see a difference? to steel a quote, neither will live his life in con grew tee with all or most of the preceps he believes himself to endorse. meaning, the girl lecturing me is still lecturing me at the bar which is pow erred by oil -- powered by oil and electricity. we are drinking the same beer trucked in by gas guzzling semis. we are both the same, except i made her up. it is no wonder the earth is in trouble. no one will sit in the dark for long when there is fun

stuff involving electricity and batteries. people willen engage in this activity, but only with their feelings. for that moment it feels like they are doing something good even if the chiuaua was trucked in from guam. if you disagree with me, you are a racist hoe ma fob. yeah. >> how did you spend your earth hour? >> i didn't even know earth hour existed to be honest. i support anything that gives me an opportunity to spend time thinking about all of the reasons i am better than anyone else. i don't know how you can object to it. >> you are right. >> did you do anything for your earth hour? >> it is sad, and something i

will ignore like condoms and exercise. >> it is like condoms and exercise. it is constraining and sweaty. >> and how was your earth hour? >> i totally forgot about it. what we should have done is gone over to al gore's house. you know that place was hit up like a christmas tree. your life is like an earth hour. >> thanks to an on going dispute, i have been celebrating earth hour for the past few weeks as well as with my heat. the only thing lit was me. for a malt liquor, you don't need a battery for that. i >>- q. i remember you called to have your utilities canceled. >> i can seld my gas because i don't cook. america, you should consider doing it. i save about $5 a month. >> that's like me can selling show time. >> i use my microwave only, thank you, hot pockets, and i never use my oven. it is a money saver.

>> i think earth hour is important now that i have resorted. >> you are well -- well come. turning the lights off helps especially since the earth has been going around a star for 5 billion years lighting it. the extra light bulbs are killing us. we really are dumb. >> it reminds me of when something bad happens people on twitter will tweet something and what happens is people retweet -- somebody put out a tweet saying to send money to red cross, do this. people retweet that, and that to them is the charity. they don't actually give. they hillary tweet it. that's the same feeling you get when you do something like this. thinking about it, you are not really doing anything. >> i spread the message and i did my part. >> retweet. we must move on. coming up, jake gyllenhaal

is dead, tired of being compared to his sister, maggie. and it is the biggest story of the year, or the next few minutes. put on your outrage bib because we are spooning outrage your way next.

they have taken the egg out of the egg roll. the white house has announced this year's egg roll on the front lawn will be more environmentally friendly than ever. the egg packaging made from earth friendly dye can be recycled and the eggs will no longer come from birds. yes, they will come from people. no, they will be made of wood. the trees must be thrilled. regardless they will be stamped with the president and first lady's signature and given to children 12 years old

and younger who attend this rally on april 25th. so any of this crap do anything for the planet? we figure the transportation needed to truck in the brass for the event, and then there is the paper needed for the invitations and yes it helps. as long as you feel good or at least as good as dancing carl. what up, dancing carl? >> i think that answers that, right? that's why he is in such great shape. at what point did you want to vomit? >> i feel good about this one. promoting health is good. does everything have to be a mess seeming? can't they just roll eggs in president fro of the president's house and go home? what are you going to promote? heart health?

>> you know, the white house is also worried about critics. you talk about exercise and there they are chasing cholesterol-laden eggs. they have to do this. >> i personally regular oven. that can save you a lot of money on your utility bill. and yet, it cook ethic. those eggs, somebody made those eggs. the eggs are not free, people. you take the eggs from somebody who did the work. are we sure this story is real? >> i am not sure. i just wonder what happens when somebody gets a splinter from one of the eggs. that's what i'm concerned about. i'm concerned about the welfare of the population. what we were talking about before, where is the hunt? where is the money? where is the chocolate? where is the fun? >> that's true. is an easter egg roll like an

east coast thing? >> in fairness, there was a roll under previous add -- administrations. this is not a takeover. >> lay it on the job, crew. >> phil, you have an easter egg hunt, but instead it is an alley and bags of heroin, and you are the only one playing. >> in the heroin community we call them eggs. at first it seems weird. i don't get why you get upset about it. the wooden eggs seem like a momento. this is like cheeses rising from the dead and not some row department that craps out eggs. and jesus was our first environmentalist. he walked everywhere. he wore sandals. he wore some sort of omni present dress that i'm sure he never washed. >> he was green.

>> the only thing that bugs me is i love -- when i was a kid, it is the plastic egg you opened up. did you have a childhood? >> i was the king of the easter egg hunt. i found the one at the light and my father would go, you are missing one and i would look up and go -- and then he would punch me or something. >> you are reliving that experience. i can see it. >> but you would open up the egg and there was an ounce and a half of brandy. >> yes. he said drink it, you little partly sunny. -- you little punk. drink it you little mistake. >> if i was president it would be a shot glass. >> i am -- i think we are all happy i roo covered from heart health. >> now that you brought it back we can think about it more. let's take a break. do you have a comment on the show? e-mail us. and to leave a voicemail on my direct line call 212-462-5050. still to come, the half time report from andy levy. he's an egg, a bad egg.

>> the carnivorous mammals with grayish fur and a black ringed bushy tail. thanks, raccoons.

welcome back. let's find out if we got anything wrong so far. let's go to andy levy. a andy, what do you have for

us? >> you did not just go there. unbelievable. >> what did i say that set you off this time? >> forget it. >> i can't forget what never happened. >> you are just like your mother. >> she is not a bad person to be like, andy. >> i meant your real mother. >> that's an old internet rumor. >> who do you think started it? . is you are just like the woman i pretended was your fake mom. >> i don't think so. kay ballard, really? >> she could have been your mom. should we drag this out longer? >> yes. >> i feel like i'm spying. >> greg, you said the hoop violated delaware's free zone law because it was too close to the street. i know a bunch of the stories referred to this free zone which i'm sure why they never wrote your copy, but a quick look at title 525 of the delaware code which i have on my kindle, greg shows that it is actually called a clear zone. >> who wrote this piece that i fuelly had to -- that i

actually had to regur jaw tate. >> i don't know. >> if somebody writes a piece i have to read and they get something wrong, shouldn't they be disciplined? >> yes, please. >> you just want bill to say he wrote it. >> could have. it was a longtime ago, like two hours. >> jim, you mocked melissa for climbing up the basketball pole. but for me, this was the equivalent of like the iraqis tearing down the saddam hussein stat few. >> you are right. i feel bad for mocking her. it is something i would like to uhologize to anybody who felt offended. >> you node to work on your apologies. >> her dumb feet were sticking out and i could have tipped it over with her in it. >> your apologies are worse than bill maars. kris steel, this is why the government shouldn't be in

charge of regulating everything from local goons. i will let people know you are being sarcastic. >> i was being sarcastic, thank you for that opportunity. isn't this a good point in they talk about things like state rights and they forget that it is easy to -- power can be abused at the state and local level as well. >> that's very true. i'm wondering what they would do. would they have taken her way with the poll? >> that would have been cool. >> the husband might have been happy. >> they are probably a wonderful couple. >> i'm sure they are. >> they could have gotten a million hits on youtube. >> that would have been a more exciting video. >> they blew it, didn't they? >> yeah. by the way, he met with the delaware state police in internal uh affairs and he said the meeting was a good start. he said he is putting a crew

together to retrieve all eight polls removed by the delaware department of transportation. he is putting the crew together, one last job. >> it is like the expendables meeting an easter egg hunt. mta's work program putting unemployed people to work and you say this is simulated work? >> yes. >> isn't that another name for work? >> yes, but it is work created to make work. >> you are actually working? >> yeah. >> it is not like you are playing a video game and making another guy work. if the job isn't necessary is it simulated work. if you already have enough people in their cleaning, i think they are going to try to replace people and the union made it impossible for charging more for the supervision. >> or maybe you were talking about what you were simulating while working in the subway. it makes you unhirable anyway.

>> i have an itch, bill. >> on the one hand i feel like unemployment benefits are not like welfare. you pay into unemployment, so when you are getting benefits you just get your money back. it is kind of unfair that they are making them work for unemployment benefits. yonder, i like mi sub -- on the other hand, i like my subways clean. >> when ever i take the subway i think, boy it could be cleaner. >> i know where they are located. >> you won't even go to a subway sandwich shop. >> and i get confused by the directions. it is like, which way do you go in the line? >> you don't understand the turn styles. it is a mess. >> jim, didn't you have a chapter of this in your book. >> i certainly did.

>> you said you have to instill the mind set in people that they have to have output. but to be fair, we are mott talking about who were on welfare. it is people who had jobs and lost them probably because of our economic policy. >> i am not touching that end part. unemployment benefits have been extended so long now that it is ridiculous. if there was a cutoff point. and i don't know how you could taylor it. they seem to go on forever. why no half time report? > we can end that right now. >> i enjoy watching you suffer. >> that was cruel, greg. >> sometimes cruelty is ago rats. >> greg-alogue, i don't do earth huer. i shut my lights out every night when i go to sleep.

>> so basically you build up quite a bank account. >> yeah, i could go the next 72 years without a carbon credit. actually if you sleep more you are doing more for the planet. you are not using any -- you are not eating. >> unless you have an electric blanket. >> i love those. >> does anybody else love electric blaine? >> who is not going to love an electric blanket. >> i don't with the stuff i do in bed. >> that could be a shocking experience. i love what the nonprofit marketing guy says about how fewer people observe earth hour. it shouldn't bree judged by how much energy it saves. i would say after five years it may have done its job. the fact it is less successful proves it is successful. kind of like this show.

white house using environmentally friendy egg for the easter egg roll. >> does everything have to be a message. in kenya they celebrate with wooden eggs. >> my original point was very, very well taken. >> i was agreeing with you. >> i gave you have kudos. >> kudos and props and the head tilt. >> the all important head tilt. >> dr. seuss would be all for this. he loved green eggs. >> you think each should be stamped with the national debt each child owes. you are so much fun. >> and it should add that particular egg adds to that person ace debt so they can understand. >> you are all just about celebrating the holiday.

>> you are the kind of mom that passed out apples for halloween or maybe loose change. >> nickels. >> i always hated that. it goes to the bottom of the back. >> it was great for breaking windows. >> really? >> yeah, a little lesson for you qidz. throw them right to the window. >> you hated nick quells, but loved nickel bags. >> you know, they give out wooden nickels. i'm done. >> leaving on a high note. >> not really. >> he was done. >> and i called you joe. i look at you and i say joe. >> there is jeddidiah and there is jim. i went and looked and i saw joe. >> that makes sense. >> it does.

absolutely. >> so what is up with the cute little kittenment it is their relentless attack on the right. what will they think of next? probably nothing like soccer. what a dumb sport.

he made a career of bullying on the net. it makes his latest venture grossest yet. paris hilton promises a children's book. the title, how to be a d-bag in three easy steps. i kid. the publisher says it is a defining story about how believing in yourself and following your aspirations can only bring out the best in you, but in those around you. perez says accepting our differences we can find the things that unite us all. can somebody stab me in the face, please.

but not before we discuss this in our -- >> lightning roooooou nd. lightning round. >> thanks. jim, this is what kills me, wasn't perez hilton the first internet bully? he was the guy who put peck tours with -- deface pictures on fake bodily fluids? he is the guy that bullied people and made people feel bad. >> i would rather read a child's book by roman polanski. he is a creep. he is a leach. he doesn't contribute anything. he is not creative or write anything. he dishes out information. >> bill is deeply offended. >> as is my entire fan club. >> i am not saying i wouldn't have a sexual encounter with him, but i wouldn't read his books. >> okay. behave yourself. >> why is it people who can't write think they can write a children's book. they think it is easy. >> it is actually not.

my daughter is three years old and she is a tough critic. she will only have the best and this will not grace her shelf. >> can she watch "red eye." >> absolutely. she is up watching right now. >> we talk a lot about unicorns. >> we have a topic on -- actually we do, don't we? >> this guy publishes stuff about vulgar people. but if you went after him, you would call him anti-gay. if you said something it was bigotry. that's sad. and there are no standards. i am scared charlie sheen is next and he is writing the next one. >> i would read that one. bill, you wrote a children's book quld -- called "boy with the messed teeth." how are sales? >> triumph with a new set of dentures.

>> and he was able to pay for the dentures. >> i love the last line. by accepting our differences we can find the things that unite us all. like writing the c-word over lyndsay lohan. that's how we can be reunited, greg. >> on sunday a group of columbian soccer fans brought the coffin of a 17-year-old boy to a match. the boy gunned down playing soccer was a big fan of the team that was playing. so a coffin at a soccer game? it is like he died and went to a soccer game. i think it is a great idea. if you were dead where would you want your friends to take you? >> to a girl's by -- bicycle shop. >> my fault for asking. the image is amazing. >> this was the boy's wish. it is like "weekend at

bernie's." >> i feel like if it was me i would want to go to an ice cream shop. you have to respect people's wishes. >> doesn't this highlight the fact that soccer fans are pretty maniacal. after they are dead they want to go to a game. >> this brings up questions. you know how the airlines have a comfort seating, how much did this cough tin take? >> i wonder if they were thinking about bringing him in without the coffin like a real weekend. >> is and and is he not blocking the view of somebody behind him. >> would you complain? >> if i was on the other team, sure. >> it is the same thing with you when you died in fwikz. >> 2006. then in 2007 we did it again

and then in 2008 we thought you were dead. >> thank god i have the de defibrilator. he said a couple times he at thees major league baseball fans they have to stop throwing the ashes of their buddies on the field. in new jersey two girls were attempted trying to smuggle drugs in. they dissolved mark particulars into a pace and painted had drugs into cinderella and mailed them to the inmate's jim. >> if you are going to get cocaine on a coloring book. don't use snow white. >> that might have tipped them off. crystal, if somebody is that innovative, shouldn't they get a free pass? >> at least they are getting rewarded with news coverage. that's a consulation prize. >> it is like simulated work.

a weird thing, not about the drugs, but that they are actually coloring books. >> of all things. >> like you said, who is going to -- >> i don't know. i'm amazed bill didn't think of this. >> or have i? >> with that picture you get your drugs and you are hooking up at the same time. that's great. i have a full day after that. >> how does this work? are they consuming this off the page? how does this work? >> my producer said kids send pictures to their fathers. i'm an idiot. i'm thinking the inmates get to color in coloring books and color. >> oh, i am so stupid. the mothers say oh little billy did this. >> we were on that page. you weren't. >> i am really stupid.

but why would you do coke, bill in jail? >> that's a rough place. you need movement and a receptive sound board. usually your cell mate ate his eye. lots ever hard ops. >> when it runs out you can't get more. >> you are more depressed than you normally were. >> the only thing better than being in jail is being in jail with no sara tone anyone in your brain. >> that's when you take up the sheets. >> when i was a kid i used to love to color. >> we learned something there. >> i can't believe i thought the coloring books were for the inmates. >> have i to move. we are taking another break. when we come back, we have stuff. ?@?@?@?@?@?@?@?@?@?@?@?@?@

last night i told you how much i enjoyed taking a bath surrounded by delightful candles. and i love charity. so let's get to my latest piece of art. i call this pleasure and pain. i depict a unicorn slash

massage therapist i met in brussels. i barely remember anything, but i remember her. those are crazy times. the highest bid now belongs to scott down in columbia. he offers $375 if we all sign it and allow him and his wife to visit along with a kilo of columbian. of course i take it you mean coffee, of course. normally i don't allow people to adjust the actual prize they are bidding on, but i am willing to make an exception because i really, really, really love coffee. i mean, i really love coffee. i will just ingest it all the time. you have until friday to beat scott's bid. e-mail your offer to be considered. and all of the money goes to the wounded warriors project. and let's not forget the real message, it is not about charity. it is about me getting better tables at finaler restaurants. >> don't you hate it when you buy two coffee cans? you empty them and then try to call the coffee guy.

i hate that. >> they find both coffee cans you are smuggling in a cavity search. >> we will close things out with a post game wrap up from tv's andy levy. to recent shows go to foxnews.com/redeye.

back to tv's andy levy for the post game wrap up. >> jim, are you going to be in irvine this weekend? >> yes, making my first appearance at the improve in irvine. and compl -- and from what i understand it is in high demand. they released a lot of tickets they were going to hold. but it it looks like there is nobody in the club. >> really? >> not going well in irvine. >> i don't understand this. at least you are not playing there three or four nights.

>> only friday two shows examine saturday two shows and one on thursday. only five chances of being humiliated. >> what is the antisocial network? >> it a show i am doing. i am doing that in chicago, vegas and somewhere else. i forget where. i suck. >> i should plug it probably. where are you? the continental u.s. >> when is your next column coming out? >> on friday. read it. be there. good stuff. >> crystal, you said you believe president obama is a socialist, why is that? >> i believe he is a socialist for the one reason no one else does. it is fundamentally uneconomic which i write about on my blog, crystal on-line .com. i will have to check that out. back to you, greg. >> back to me. you can go to